{"id":10335,"date":"2010-09-10T09:56:02","date_gmt":"2010-09-10T07:56:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.epochtimestr.com\/?p=10335"},"modified":"2010-09-10T09:56:02","modified_gmt":"2010-09-10T07:56:02","slug":"ney-virtuozu-kudsi-erguner-iki-cark-atip-donen-birazcik-da-ney-ufleyen-dervis-oluyor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epochtimestr.com\/index.php\/ney-virtuozu-kudsi-erguner-iki-cark-atip-donen-birazcik-da-ney-ufleyen-dervis-oluyor","title":{"rendered":"Ney virt\u00fc\u00f6z\u00fc Kudsi Erguner: \u0130ki \u00c7ark At\u0131p D\u00f6nen, Birazc\u0131k da Ney \u00dcfleyen Dervi\u015f Oluyor&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"highslide\" onclick=\"return vz.expand(this)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.epochtimestr.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/agustos\/ney.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-10336\" title=\"ney\" src=\"http:\/\/www.epochtimestr.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/agustos\/ney-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u0130STANBUL<\/span><\/a><\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8211; <\/span><a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">1973&#8217;den beri Fransa&#8217;da ya\u015fayan d\u00fcnyaca \u00fcnl\u00fc ney virt\u00fc\u00f6z\u00fc Kudsi Erguner, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de vas\u0131flar\u0131n insanlara \u00e7ok kolay verildi\u011fini belirterek, &#8221;\u0130ki \u00e7ark at\u0131p d\u00f6nen, birazc\u0131k da ney \u00fcfleyen dervi\u015f oluyor.&#8221; diyerek tepki g\u00f6sterdi. Kudsi Erguner, TRT Haber&#8217;in &#8220;Ak\u0131lda Kalan&#8221; program\u0131nda Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ge\u00e7ti\u011fimiz haftalarda Faz\u0131l Say ve Elif \u015eafak&#8217;a y\u00f6nelik a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131yla da g\u00fcndeme gelen Erguner, Ak\u0131lda Kalan&#8217;da karde\u015fi S\u00fcleyman Erguner ve T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;deki neyzenler hakk\u0131nda \u00e7arp\u0131c\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda bulundu. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Erguner, programda Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n &#8220;Ney, dervi\u015f enstr\u00fcman\u0131 olarak bilinir. Ama bug\u00fcn b\u00fct\u00fcn neyzenlerin dervi\u015f oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyemeyiz. Peki bir neyzenin dervi\u015f olmas\u0131 gerekli midir? Eski neyzenler, neye \u00fcflemeden \u00f6nce destur \u00e7ekerlerdi. \u015eimdikiler?&#8221; sorusu \u00fczerine, neyzenlerin dervi\u015f olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fi s\u00f6ylentisinin kendisini rahats\u0131z etti\u011fini ve neyzenlerden ne dervi\u015f, ne de evliya olunmas\u0131n\u0131n beklendi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ney \u00fcfleyenlerin Mevlevi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnde \u015feyhten sonra geldi\u011fini ve bu gelene\u011fin sadece Mevlevi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne \u00f6zg\u00fc oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyen Erguner, &#8220;Mevzu \u00f6yle basitle\u015ftirildi ki, iki \u00e7ark at\u0131p d\u00f6nen, birazc\u0131k da ney \u00fcfleyen dervi\u015f oluyor, evliya oluyor, \u015feyh oluyor, u\u00e7uyor gidiyor. Bu kadar basit de\u011fil.&#8221; dedi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;Kimseden daha usta oldu\u011fumu iddia etmiyorum. Karde\u015fimin b\u00f6yle bir iddias\u0131 var.&#8221; diyen Kudsi Erguner, Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n, karde\u015fi S\u00fcleyman Erguner&#8217;le neden y\u0131llard\u0131r sorunlu bir ili\u015fki ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 da sordu. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">S\u00fcleyman Erguner&#8217;in l\u00fczumsuz polemiklere girdi\u011fini ve aralar\u0131ndaki problemin d\u0131\u015far\u0131ya yans\u0131t\u0131lmamas\u0131n\u0131 istedi\u011fini belirten Kudsi Erguner, &#8220;Hakikatten \u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc bir durum. Karde\u015fimle y\u0131llarca beraber \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k, plaklar yapt\u0131k, konserlere \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131k. Sonra ne olduysa b\u00f6yle arada sen benden iyisin, ben senden iyiyim diye bir \u015fey \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.. Benim bir iddiam yok. Kimseden daha usta oldu\u011fumu iddia eden biri de\u011filim&#8221; dedi. Kudsi Erguner, karde\u015finin kitab\u0131nda, bir neyzen olarak ad\u0131ndan hi\u00e7 s\u00f6z etmedi\u011fini belirtti ve &#8220;burada herhalde benim de\u011fil, onun probleminin oldu\u011fu ortaya \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Babam bu hallerimizi g\u00f6rseydi herhalde \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcrd\u00fc. Ke\u015fke olmasayd\u0131 bunlar. Ama art\u0131k yap\u0131lacak bir \u015fey de yok. Allah selamet versin&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;Bu iddialardan vazge\u00e7elim. B\u0131rakal\u0131m, atalar\u0131m\u0131z bizimle \u00f6v\u00fcns\u00fcn.&#8221; diye Kudsi Erguner, Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n, &#8216;Siz kitab\u0131n\u0131zda karde\u015finizin ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck olmas\u0131 nedeniyle baban\u0131z\u0131n \u00f6\u011fretisinden hi\u00e7 yararlanamad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, onun vefat\u0131ndan sonra neye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, konservatuar b\u00fcnyesinde Neyzen Akag\u00fcnd\u00fcz&#8217;\u00fcn \u00f6\u011fretisiyle yeti\u015fti\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorsunuz. Ama karde\u015finiz hay\u0131r bu do\u011fru de\u011fil, ben babamdan ders ald\u0131m diyor. Acaba neden b\u00f6ylesine farkl\u0131 hat\u0131rl\u0131yorsunuz ge\u00e7mi\u015fi?&#8221; \u015feklindeki sorusuna ise \u015f\u00f6yle cevap verdi; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8221;Karde\u015fim S\u00fcleyman, babam vefat eti\u011finde hen\u00fcz 16- 17 ya\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131. Babam\u0131n 7 y\u0131l gibi s\u00fcren bir rahats\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 vard\u0131. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla o 10 ya\u015f\u0131ndan itibaren hep hasta bir baban\u0131n yan\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131. \u015eu an hayatta olan o \u00e7evrenin i\u00e7erisinde a\u011fabeylerimiz, dostlar\u0131m\u0131z var. Herkes bunu biliyor. Karde\u015fimin iddias\u0131 farkl\u0131 olabilir. \u0130nsanlar, ge\u00e7mi\u015fleriyle atar\u0131yla tabi ki \u00f6v\u00fcnecekler. Ama bir de tersine \u00e7evirelim bunu. Atalar\u0131m\u0131z bizimle \u00f6v\u00fcns\u00fcn.&#8221; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;NEY YAPIMINDA B\u0130R EMEK YOK, PARA KAR\u015eILI\u011eI NEY VERMEK DO\u011eRU DE\u011e\u0130L&#8221; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Nuriye Akman, Kudsi Erguner&#8217;e karde\u015fi S\u00fcleyman Erguner&#8217;in b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyaya ney satmas\u0131n\u0131 onaylay\u0131p onaylamad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sormas\u0131 \u00fczerine ise Erguner, &#8220;Herkes kendi bildi\u011fi gibi yapar. Babamdan b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimizden \u00f6yle \u00f6\u011frendik. Ney enstr\u00fcman\u0131 bir ud gibi de\u011fil ki\u2026 A\u011fa\u00e7 al\u0131p da at\u00f6lyede saatlerce \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131z gerekmiyor. Neyde bir emek yok. Ney, binlerce liraya sat\u0131lacak bir enstr\u00fcman de\u011fil. Bir ba\u015fka nedeni de neye hevesli olan insanlar\u0131n \u00e7o\u011fu g\u00f6n\u00fcl yaras\u0131 ya\u015fayan insanlar. Bu insanlara para kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 ney vermek bence do\u011fru de\u011fil.&#8221; dedi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">B\u0130R TASAVVUF \u00dcSTADI, D\u0130N\u0130 TANGO OKUYOR <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8216;Mevlevi gelene\u011finin Konya folkloruna indirgenmesinden, Mesnevi&#8217;den tek sat\u0131r okumam\u0131\u015f semazenlerin e\u011flence malzemesi olmas\u0131ndan, Mesnevi&#8217;nin her beyitinin bir ayet ya da hadise dayal\u0131 oldu\u011fu halde i\u015fin bu yan\u0131ndan soyutlan\u0131lmas\u0131ndan, sema deyince g\u00f6ky\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fcn anla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131ndan, bu kelimenin manas\u0131n\u0131n dinlemek oldu\u011funun bilinmemesinden, ortada d\u00f6nen Mevlana enflasyonundan azap duyuyorsunuz. Bu azab\u0131 nas\u0131l dindiriyorsunuz?&#8221; sorusuna ise Kudsi Erguner, \u015f\u00f6yle cevap verdi; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8221;Konya&#8217;da bir futbol stadyumunda Mevlana&#8217;n\u0131n y\u0131ld\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc 30 bin- 40 bin ki\u015fi izliyor. Lazerler d\u00f6n\u00fcyor, maytaplar patl\u0131yor. Arkada kocaman bir senfonik orkestra\u2026 Senfonik orkestran\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcnde de bizim \u00e7ok tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f bir karde\u015fimiz, bir tasavvuf \u00fcstad\u0131, smokinleriyle dini tango okuyor. Bunu g\u00f6r\u00fcnce hay\u0131flanmamak elde de\u011fil. Hay\u0131flanmam\u0131n ikinci bir sebebi daha var. Ne yaz\u0131k ki bunu tenkit edecek g\u00fc\u00e7te ne bir bas\u0131n\u0131m\u0131z var, ne de bu hassasiyette ayd\u0131n\u0131m\u0131z var. \u00c7ok ac\u0131 bir \u015fey.&#8221; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;ELMA A\u011eACINDA ARMUT \u00c7IKMAZ&#8221; <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Program\u0131n sonunda, sohbete Kudsi Erguner&#8217;in o\u011flu Selman Erguner de kat\u0131ld\u0131. Ney \u00fcfleme konusunda aile gelene\u011fini devam ettiren ve zincirin son halkas\u0131 olan Selman Erguner, Ramazan&#8217;da Caz festivali kapsam\u0131nda babas\u0131 ile birlikte sahne ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Paris&#8217;te konservatuarda viyola e\u011fitimi alan Selman Erguner, evde T\u00fcrk m\u00fczi\u011fi ile b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc ve bunun kendisi i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck bir zenginlik oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. \u015eimdilik sufizmin ilgisini \u00e7ekmedi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen Selman Erguner, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye geldi\u011finde sufizme ilgisinin artt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ama Paris&#8217;e d\u00f6n\u00fcnce bu ilgiyi kaybetti\u011fini belirtti. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;Elma a\u011fac\u0131nda armut \u00e7\u0131kmaz&#8221; diyen baba Kudsi Erguner ise \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 ney \u00fcflemeye hi\u00e7bir zaman zorlamad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve o\u011flunun da ileride iyi bir neyzen olaca\u011f\u0131na inand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00c7ocuklu\u011funda kaybetti\u011fi Mevlevi cemaatinin ba\u015fka bir \u015feklini Avrupa&#8217;da ailesi ve talebeleriyle birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyen Kudsi Erguner, 70&#8217;li y\u0131llarda Avrupa&#8217;da sufizme T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;den daha fazla ilgi duyuldu\u011funu da s\u00f6zlerine ekledi. <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n sundu\u011fu ve her per\u015fembe g\u00fcn\u00fc saat 20.10&#8217;da TRT Haber&#8217;de ekrana gelen &#8220;Ak\u0131lda Kalan&#8221; program\u0131n\u0131n yap\u0131m ve y\u00f6netimini Aynur \u00c7elebio\u011flu ve Mustafa \u00d6zkurt yap\u0131yor. Program\u0131n dan\u0131\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\/ konuk koordinat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u0130rem \u015e\u0131k ve Can Uluda\u011f yap\u0131yor.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130STANBUL&#8211; 1973&#8217;den beri Fransa&#8217;da ya\u015fayan d\u00fcnyaca \u00fcnl\u00fc ney virt\u00fc\u00f6z\u00fc Kudsi Erguner, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de vas\u0131flar\u0131n insanlara \u00e7ok kolay verildi\u011fini belirterek, &#8221;\u0130ki \u00e7ark at\u0131p d\u00f6nen, birazc\u0131k da ney \u00fcfleyen dervi\u015f oluyor.&#8221; diyerek tepki g\u00f6sterdi. Kudsi Erguner, TRT Haber&#8217;in &#8220;Ak\u0131lda Kalan&#8221; program\u0131nda Nuriye Akman&#8217;\u0131n sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131. 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