{"id":119767,"date":"2019-01-14T13:44:34","date_gmt":"2019-01-14T10:44:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/epochtimestr.com\/?p=119767"},"modified":"2019-01-14T14:48:23","modified_gmt":"2019-01-14T11:48:23","slug":"roportaj-gazeteci-yazar-bill-gertz-ile-abdnin-cin-ile-iliskilerinde-izlemesi-gereken-politikalar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epochtimestr.com\/index.php\/roportaj-gazeteci-yazar-bill-gertz-ile-abdnin-cin-ile-iliskilerinde-izlemesi-gereken-politikalar","title":{"rendered":"R\u00f6portaj: Gazeteci-Yazar Bill Gertz ile, ABD\u2019nin \u00c7in ile \u0130li\u015fkilerinde \u0130zlemesi Gereken Politikalar"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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Bill Gertz. (Wu Wei \/ NTD)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Bill Gertz, ulusal g\u00fcvenlik konusunda \u00f6nde gelen gazetecilerden biridir. \u201c\u00c7in Tehdidi\u201d (The China Threat) de dahil olmak \u00fczere 7 kitab\u0131n yazar\u0131d\u0131r.\u00a0Gertz, Epoch Medya Grubunun bir par\u00e7as\u0131 olan NTD ile bir r\u00f6portaj ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdi.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Ba\u015fkan Richard Nixon\u2019\u0131n ABD\u2019nin \u00c7in\u2019le ili\u015fkileri konusundaki a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m\u0131,\nstratejik bir deha olarak kabul edilmi\u015fti. Bununla birlikte, Michael\nPillsbury\u2019nin \u201cY\u00fcz Y\u0131ll\u0131k Maraton\u201d adl\u0131 yeni kitab\u0131na g\u00f6re bu ili\u015fkinin do\u011fas\u0131,\nen ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri yanl\u0131\u015f anla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Amerika ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri \u00c7in konusunda\nyan\u0131ld\u0131 m\u0131?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bill<\/strong> Gertz: <\/strong>Evet. Nixon y\u00f6netimi\ntaraf\u0131ndan \u00c7in\u2019e yap\u0131lan stratejik a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m\u0131n, stratejik bir hile olarak\nadland\u0131r\u0131labilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ba\u015fka bir deyi\u015fle bu, \u00c7in\u2019in Sovyetler\nBirli\u011fi\u2019ne kar\u015f\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir hamleydi ve o g\u00fcn i\u00e7in yerini buldu. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir d\u0131\u015f\npolitika ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131 olarak kabul edildi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nixon \u00e7ok g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir\nanti-kom\u00fcnistti ve muhafazakar destek\u00e7ileri taraf\u0131ndan \u00c7in\u2019e yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m\ni\u00e7in ele\u015ftirildi. Bu politikadaki as\u0131l sorun, Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\u2019nin 1991\u2019de\n\u00e7\u00f6kmesi \u00fczerine, \u00c7in politikas\u0131n\u0131n hi\u00e7bir \u015fekilde yeniden\nde\u011ferlendirilmemesiydi. Bu bir t\u00fcr otomatik pilota ba\u011flanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve tam bu\nnoktada Amerikan politikas\u0131n\u0131n raylardan \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Temel\nolarak bunun, n\u00fckleer silahl\u0131 bir kom\u00fcnist s\u00fcper g\u00fc\u00e7le, bir diktat\u00f6rl\u00fckle\nkontrols\u00fcz bir ortakl\u0131k oldu\u011fu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcl\u00fcrse, b\u00fcy\u00fck bir stratejik hata yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00f6ylenebilir.\n\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu ortakl\u0131k bir \u015fekilde, ger\u00e7ek bir stratejik ortakl\u0131\u011fa\nd\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fecekti. \u00c7in\u2019deki kom\u00fcnist sistemin do\u011fas\u0131n\u0131 tam olarak anlamad\u0131lar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u015eubat 1972\u2019de \u00c7in\u2019e yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 resmi ziyaret s\u0131ras\u0131nda ABD Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Richard Nixon (solda), \u00c7in Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 Chou En Lai ile el s\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. (Wikipedia) <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Bu neden oldu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>O zamanlar bu ad\u0131m Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\u2019ni y\u0131kmak i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck giri\u015fim olarak\ng\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc. \u00d6yle olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 tart\u0131\u015f\u0131labilir. Bu giri\u015fimin Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\nile \u00c7in aras\u0131nda, taraflar\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 k\u0131\u015fk\u0131rt\u0131lmas\u0131nda etkili oldu\u011funu, bunun\nda ABD\u2019nin yarar\u0131na oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Bence o zaman i\u00e7in de\u011ferli bir\nad\u0131md\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fakat Sovyetler\nBirli\u011fi \u00e7\u00f6kt\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde, bu ortakl\u0131\u011f\u0131n yeniden de\u011ferlendirilmesi gerekirdi; bunu\nyapmad\u0131lar. \u00c7in kom\u00fcnist sisteminin do\u011fas\u0131n\u0131 ger\u00e7ekten anlamadan\npolitikay\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmek ve bir \u015fekilde \u00c7in ile ger\u00e7ek bir ortakl\u0131k in\u015fa etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak,\nbence Henry Kissinger gibi insanlar\u0131n a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 kibrinden kaynaklan\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>\u00c7in ile olan ili\u015fkilerimizde kamu politikas\u0131na, k\u00e2r odakl\u0131 ticaret sekt\u00f6r\u00fc\nh\u00fckmetti. Bu \u00c7in\u2019e yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n yanl\u0131\u015f yola sapmas\u0131na neden oldu mu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Uzun y\u0131llard\u0131r, 1980\u2019lerden beri s\u00f6zl\u00fc olarak ve 2000 y\u0131l\u0131ndaki kitab\u0131m\n\u201c\u00c7in Tehdidi\u201d ile yaz\u0131l\u0131 olarak, bu konuda uyar\u0131larda bulunuyorum. \u00c7in\u2019e\nkar\u015f\u0131 temel yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n yanl\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu, ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri savunuyorum. Ve\nbu yakla\u015f\u0131m k\u0131smen, Birle\u015fik Devletler \u00c7in ile ticaret yaparsa, bu ticaret ve\ni\u015f etkile\u015fiminin \u0131l\u0131ml\u0131 bir etkisi olaca\u011f\u0131 ve nihayetinde \u00c7in\u2019in kom\u00fcnist bir\ndevletten demokratik bir devlete ge\u00e7i\u015fi ile sonu\u00e7lanaca\u011f\u0131 varsay\u0131m\u0131 \u00fczerine\nkurulmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bu varsay\u0131m, 80\u2019li\ny\u0131llara dayan\u0131r ve 30 y\u0131ldan fazla bir s\u00fcredir Amerika\u2019n\u0131n \u00c7in politikas\u0131n\u0131n\ntemelini olu\u015fturmaktad\u0131r. Ve esas olarak yanl\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu\nkan\u0131tlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. \u00c7in\u2019den \u0131l\u0131ml\u0131 bir yakla\u015f\u0131m g\u00f6rmedik. Demokratik bir\nsisteme do\u011fru bir a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131m g\u00f6rmedik. Asl\u0131nda tam tersini g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Bu,\nikinci evlilikler hakk\u0131nda \u00e7ok s\u00f6ylenen bir \u015feydir; umudun deneyime kar\u015f\u0131\nzaferi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Umut \u00fczerine bir\nulusal g\u00fcvenlik politikas\u0131 olu\u015fturamazs\u0131n\u0131z. \u00c7in ile ticaret yapman\u0131n daha\nbar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l, daha demokratik, daha d\u0131\u015fa a\u00e7\u0131k bir \u00c7in getirece\u011fini umarak yap\u0131lan\n\u015fey buydu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u00c7in eyalet ba\u015fkan\u0131 Xi Jinping (sa\u011fda), 17 Mart 2015 tarihinde Pekin\u2019de, ABD Eski Devlet Bakan\u0131 Henry Kissinger ile B\u00fcy\u00fck Halk Salonunda el s\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. 1972\u2019de \u00c7in\u2019in Amerika\u2019ya a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131na yard\u0131m ettikten sonra Kissinger, \u00c7in\u2019le ba\u011flant\u0131 kurulmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nc\u00fc savunucular\u0131ndan biri oldu. (Feng Li \/ Getty Images) <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Hatan\u0131n sadece hevesli bir d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnme \u015feklinden kaynaklan\u0131p kaynaklanmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131\nmerak ediyorum. Peki ya b\u00fcy\u00fck Amerikan \u015firketlerinin\na\u00e7g\u00f6zl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc? Cisco, Microsoft, hepsi \u00c7in\u2019de b\u00fcy\u00fck para kazand\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Hi\u00e7 kimse \u00c7in\u2019de ne kadar para kazand\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rmek i\u00e7in kay\u0131tlara\nbakmad\u0131. \u00c7in\u2019de her i\u015fletme a\u011f\u0131r \u015fekilde k\u0131s\u0131tl\u0131d\u0131r. \u00c7inliler\nAmerikan teknolojisini b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda transfer etme ihtiyac\u0131\nduyuyor. Oradaki ABD \u015firketlerine inan\u0131lmaz k\u0131s\u0131tlamalar koydular.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yine i\u015f d\u00fcnyas\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan\nbak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda kurulan ticari politika, \u00c7in\u2019deki 1,4 milyar ki\u015filik bu pazara bir\n\u015fekilde eri\u015febilecekleri umuduna dayan\u0131yordu. Ve umut \u015fuydu: \u201cOnlar\u0131 i\u015f\nd\u00fcnyas\u0131na sokmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fal\u0131m ve Amerikan kapitalizmi fikrinin onlar\u0131 avlas\u0131n\u201d. Asl\u0131nda,\navlayamad\u0131. … \u0130\u015f d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ok daha ideolojik ve \u00e7ok daha bask\u0131c\u0131 bir\nkom\u00fcnist pozisyona do\u011fru k\u0131s\u0131tland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fck.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>K\u00e2r odakl\u0131 bir i\u015fletme sekt\u00f6r\u00fc kamu politikas\u0131n\u0131 y\u00f6nlendirdi\u011finde, \u00fclkenin\nuzun vadeli \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131n\u0131 ve de\u011ferlerini ihmal etme ve hatta \u00f6d\u00fcn verme riskini\nalm\u0131\u015f olur muyuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Evet, olduk\u00e7a. Her \u015feyden \u00f6nce, bir\u00e7ok Amerikan teknoloji \u015firketi \u00c7in ile\ni\u015f yapman\u0131n y\u00fcksek riskli bir giri\u015fim oldu\u011funu anlamaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Ve risk\nnedir? Risk, \u00c7in\u2019in onlar\u0131n en \u00f6nemli tescilli s\u0131rlar\u0131n\u0131, end\u00fcstriyel ve\nekonomik s\u0131rlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7almas\u0131d\u0131r. Ve bu, \u00c7in\u2019de i\u015f yapan bir\u00e7ok \u015firket i\u00e7in\ngiderek biraz daha netle\u015fiyor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c7in\u2019de uzun y\u0131llar\nge\u00e7irmi\u015f i\u015f adamlar\u0131yla konu\u015ftum ve \u00f6rne\u011fin \u00c7in\u2019in, \u015firketlerin en de\u011ferli\ns\u0131rlar\u0131n\u0131 tehlikeye atabilecekleri tescilli yaz\u0131l\u0131mlar\u0131n\u0131n ve bili\u015fim a\u011flar\u0131n\u0131n\nkaynak kodlar\u0131n\u0131 vermelerini zorunlu k\u0131lan yasalar\u0131 kabul etti\u011fini\n\u00f6\u011frendim. \u015eimdilik, bu yasay\u0131 zorunlu tutmam\u0131\u015flar, ancak yasa yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015f\nve istedikleri zaman uygulamaya koyabilirler. Sonu\u00e7 olarak s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fclen\npolitikalar i\u015f d\u00fcnyas\u0131 i\u00e7in bile i\u015fe yaramamas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, bug\u00fcn i\u015f d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131n\numudu \u00c7in\u2019de ticaret yaparak ve i\u015f yaparak bundan \u0131l\u0131ml\u0131 bir tak\u0131m sonu\u00e7lar\nelde etmek y\u00f6n\u00fcndedir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trump y\u00f6netiminde,\nbuna kar\u015f\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fck bir tepki g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Geri \u00e7ekilme konusunda \u00e7ok agresif\ndavran\u0131yorlar. Bunun sebeplerinden biri, i\u015f d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nde gelen\nisimlerinden bir\u00e7o\u011funun ABD h\u00fckumetine ba\u015fvurarak, \u00c7in taraf\u0131ndan\nteknolojilerinin \u00e7al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemesidir. Teknolojimizi korumak i\u00e7in bir\n\u015feyler yapmam\u0131z gerekiyor. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu teknoloji \u015fu anda Amerikan end\u00fcstrisi ve\nekonomisinin lokomotifi durumunda. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Trump\u2019\u0131n yak\u0131n zamanda imzalad\u0131\u011f\u0131 2019 Ulusal Savunma Yetki Yasas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Trump y\u00f6netimi taraf\u0131ndan Beyaz Saray Ulusal G\u00fcvenlik Stratejisi\u2019nde ana\nhatlar\u0131yla a\u00e7\u0131klanan \u00c7in\u2019e yeni yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n sistemle\u015ftirilmesi, ileriye do\u011fru\nat\u0131lm\u0131\u015f \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bir ad\u0131md\u0131r diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. San\u0131r\u0131m bu olay Aral\u0131k\n2017\u2019de oldu. Bunu, 2018\u2019in Ocak ay\u0131nda ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan yeni Ulusal Savunma\nStratejisi izledi. Ve bu iki a\u00e7\u0131klamada, on y\u0131llard\u0131r ilk defa \u00c7in\nstratejik bir rakip olarak tan\u0131mland\u0131. Bu ifade \u00c7in\u2019in bir g\u00fcn bir \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck\nyanl\u0131s\u0131, kapitalist yanl\u0131s\u0131 bir ulus haline gelece\u011finin, art\u0131k kabul\nedilmedi\u011fini s\u00f6ylemenin diplomatik bir yoludur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bu y\u00fczden NDAA\u2019n\u0131n\n(Ulusal Savunma Yetki Yasas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n) ilk kez bu yeni stratejiyi bir \u00e7ok alanda\nsistemle\u015ftirdi\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bunun ABD\u2019nin Tayvan\nile olan ili\u015fkilerinin g\u00fc\u00e7lendirilmesi i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli bir katk\u0131 oldu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz.\nBen de bunun Trump y\u00f6netimi taraf\u0131ndan ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirilen, ger\u00e7ekten \u00f6nemli bir\nstratejik hareket oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Tayvan, demokratik bir yolla \u00c7in\u2019in\nkalbine saplanm\u0131\u015f bir han\u00e7er gibidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NDAA Amerikan\npolitikas\u0131n\u0131 Tayvan\u2019a do\u011fru y\u00f6nlendirerek, ABD\u2019den Tayvan ile ortak askeri\ntatbikatlar yapmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyor ve ortak sa\u011fduyu da bu y\u00f6nde. 1979 Tayvan\u2019la\n\u0130li\u015fkiler Yasas\u0131 uyar\u0131nca, ABD ordusu Tayvan\u2019\u0131 bir kara sald\u0131r\u0131s\u0131ndan korumakla\ny\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcd\u00fcr; ancak art arda ba\u015fa ge\u00e7en Cumhuriyet\u00e7i ve Demokratik y\u00f6netimler,\nABD ile Tayvan aras\u0131ndaki askeri etkile\u015fime \u00e7ok ciddi s\u0131n\u0131rlamalar\ngetirdiler. Son y\u0131llarda i\u015fler d\u00fczeldi, ancak bence bu yeni NDAA, yak\u0131n\nbir i\u015fbirli\u011fini te\u015fvik ediyor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Trump y\u00f6netiminin \u00c7in politikalar\u0131n\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda elden ge\u00e7irdi\u011fini\ns\u00f6yleyebilir miyiz?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Evet, ger\u00e7ekten \u00f6yle. Dedi\u011fim gibi, hem Ulusal G\u00fcvenlik Stratejisi ve hem\nde Ulusal Savunma Stratejisi, s\u00f6z konusu politikada yap\u0131sal bir de\u011fi\u015fime neden\nolmu\u015ftur. Bu hiyerar\u015fik politikan\u0131n Ticaret Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131, Pentagon ya da\nAdalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi \u00e7e\u015fitli devlet kurumlar\u0131 \u00fczerindeki ger\u00e7ek etkisinin\nortaya \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131n birka\u00e7 (muhtemelen iki ya da \u00fc\u00e7) y\u0131l alaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131\ns\u00f6yleyebilirim. Fakat biz \u015fimdiden b\u00fcy\u00fck de\u011fi\u015fimler g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bunun bir \u00f6rne\u011fini\nkar\u015f\u0131 casusluk alan\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. FBI, y\u0131llard\u0131r \u00c7in\u2019in istihbarat\nfaaliyetlerini hedef alan \u00e7ok az eylem yapt\u0131. Bu de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Trump\ny\u00f6netiminde, \u00c7in\u2019in bir istihbarat tehdidi olu\u015fturdu\u011funa dair bir kabul\nvar. \u0130stihbarat servislerini operasyonlar\u0131 etkilemek ve en \u00f6nemlisi\nteknoloji h\u0131rs\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve end\u00fcstriyel casusluk i\u00e7in kullan\u0131yorlar. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pentagon\u2019da Tayvan\u2019la\ndaha yak\u0131n ili\u015fkiler g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz ve ayn\u0131 zamanda \u00c7in\u2019in devlet s\u0131rlar\u0131n\u0131 ve \u00f6zel\nsekt\u00f6rden a\u00e7\u0131k bilgileri \u00e7almak gibi \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck siber sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 koymak\ni\u00e7in daha b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7abalar g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Trump\u2019\u0131 \u00c7in ile ili\u015fkilerde \u00f6nceki ba\u015fkanlardan farkl\u0131 k\u0131lan nedir?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Bu \u00e7ok ilgin\u00e7 bir durum. \u015eu anki ba\u015fkan\u0131n politikalar\u0131n\u0131 inceledim ve Trump\u2019\u0131n (kitab\u0131nda) \u2026 2012 y\u0131l\u0131na kadar ABD\u2019nin \u00c7in\u2019le i\u015f ortakl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 b\u0131rakmas\u0131ndan bahsetti\u011fini fark ettim. \u00d6zellikle, \u00c7in\u2019in insan haklar\u0131 ihlallerini daha fazla g\u00f6z ard\u0131 etmeden ve \u015f\u00fcphesiz ticaret a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bakarak \u00c7in\u2019in haks\u0131z ticaret uygulamalar\u0131na odaklanmam\u0131z gerekti\u011finde \u0131srar ediyor. Bu san\u0131r\u0131m ba\u015fkan\u0131n yeni politikas\u0131n\u0131n ana itici g\u00fcc\u00fc oldu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c7in tehdidinin\ng\u00fcvenlikle ilgili k\u0131s\u0131mlar\u0131na \u015fimdiye kadar ger\u00e7ekten odaklanmad\u0131. Daha\n\u00e7ok \u00c7in\u2019in haks\u0131z ticaret uygulamalar\u0131na odakland\u0131. Bence Trump, Amerikan\npolitikalar\u0131na yeniden odaklanarak, yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi\u011fi \u015feylere do\u011fru\ny\u00f6nlendirme konusunda \u00f6nemli geli\u015fmeler sa\u011flad\u0131. \u00d6zellikle \u00c7in\u2019in ve di\u011fer\n\u00fclkelerin \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131n\u0131 ikinci plana atarak ABD\u2019nin \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131n\u0131 en \u00f6nde tutmak\n\u00fczere planlanm\u0131\u015f Amerika\u2019n\u0131n birincil politikalar\u0131n\u0131 ayarlad\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Sizce Trump do\u011fru yolda m\u0131?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Ba\u015fkan Trump, ABD\u2019nin \u00c7in\u2019e y\u00f6nelik politikas\u0131n\u0131n yeniden\ny\u00f6nlendirilmesinde \u00e7ok iyi bir ilerleme kaydediyor. Bu bir\u00e7ok problem\nyarat\u0131yor. \u00c7in\u2019den ilgin\u00e7 tepkiler g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Birincisi, \u00c7in\u2019in\nRusya\u2019ya yakla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Yeni bir Rusya-\u00c7in ekseninin ortaya\n\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. \u00c7in\u2019in Rusya\u2019yla daha yak\u0131n ili\u015fkiler kurma aray\u0131\u015f\u0131na\ngirmesinin nedenlerinden biri, Pekin\u2019de Trump y\u00f6netiminin bir kez daha \u00c7in\u2019e\nbask\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u00fcnde bir alg\u0131n\u0131n olmas\u0131d\u0131r. Asl\u0131nda ba\u015fkan\u0131n bu\ny\u00f6nde bir talimat\u0131 yok. Ba\u015fkan Trump s\u0131k s\u0131k \u00c7in Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Xi Jinping\nile olan yak\u0131n dostlu\u011funu dile getirir. Fakat yapt\u0131klar\u0131, \u00c7in lideri\nhakk\u0131nda s\u00f6yledi\u011fi nazik s\u00f6zlerden \u00e7ok daha dikkat \u00e7ekicidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>\u00c7inliler, Amerika\u2019n\u0131n g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fcn ger\u00e7ek kayna\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anl\u0131yorlar m\u0131? Bu anlay\u0131\u015f\nolmadan, \u00c7in uzun \u00f6m\u00fcrl\u00fc bir s\u00fcper g\u00fc\u00e7 haline gelebilir mi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>\u00d6ncelikle, Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\u2019nin 1991\u2019deki \u00e7\u00f6k\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn Pekin a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bir\nuyand\u0131rma \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. \u00c7in y\u00f6netimi sistemde de\u011fi\u015fiklik yapmak\nzorunda olduklar\u0131n\u0131 anlad\u0131; aksi halde kom\u00fcnist bir sistemin kaderi, Sovyetler\nBirli\u011fi gibi y\u0131k\u0131lmak olacakt\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Daha \u00f6nce 80\u2019lerde\nreform ve a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecine \u00e7oktan ba\u015flam\u0131\u015flard\u0131. Ancak bence bu, kom\u00fcnizmi\nyeniden b\u00fcy\u00fctmek i\u00e7in tasarlanm\u0131\u015f bir s\u00fcre\u00e7ti. Benim g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcme g\u00f6re bu, onlar\u0131n\nzaten pe\u015finde olduklar\u0131 bir \u015feydi. B\u00f6ylece kom\u00fcnist ekonomik sistemi\nde\u011fi\u015ftirdiler, ancak kom\u00fcnist ideolojik sistemi: her \u015fey \u00fczerinde g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc merkezi\nkontrol\u00fc, i\u00e7 g\u00fcvenli\u011fi, bask\u0131y\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmediler. Bunlar kom\u00fcnist sistemin\nvazge\u00e7emedikleri temel \u00f6zellikleridir. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Korkular\u0131, bunlarda\nyumu\u015famalar\u0131 ve daha demokratik bir devlete do\u011fru ilerlemeleri halinde\nsonlar\u0131n\u0131n Sovyetler Birli\u011fi gibi olmas\u0131yd\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00d6te yandan ekonomik\na\u00e7\u0131dan parola, \u201cZengin olmak harika, hepimiz zengin olal\u0131m\u201dd\u0131. Ancak bunun\nyerine \u00c7in\u2019de bug\u00fcn de mevcut olan yayg\u0131n yozla\u015fman\u0131n etkisi ile zenginlikte\nb\u00fcy\u00fck bir e\u015fitsizlik olu\u015ftu. Sistemden yararlanan k\u0131y\u0131 kentleri ve se\u00e7kinlerin\nyan\u0131 s\u0131ra \u00fclkenin geri kalan\u0131 yoksulluk ve sefalette bo\u011fuluyor. Bu, \u00c7in\u2019in ba\u015f\nedemedi\u011fi bir i\u00e7 \u00e7eli\u015fkidir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ayr\u0131ca bu sistemin,\nde\u011fer eksikli\u011fi ile u\u011fra\u015f\u0131yorlar. Pek \u00e7ok kamu kurumunda kom\u00fcnizmin kat\u0131\ntutumunu desteklemekten uzakla\u015ft\u0131lar. Ancak ayn\u0131 zamanda d\u00e2hili bir de\u011fer\nsistemi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n da fark\u0131ndalar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bence \u00c7in liderleri\nbunu anl\u0131yor. Singapur\u2019da ve biraz da Japonya\u2019da tek parti diktat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ya\nda tek partili politik sistemleri denediler. Birlikte sahip olduklar\u0131 de\u011ferleri\ns\u00fcrd\u00fcrebilecekleri bir de\u011ferler sistemi arad\u0131lar ve bulamad\u0131lar. Bir yanda\nkat\u0131 kurallar\u0131 olan ideolojik kom\u00fcnist sistem ve bir yanda da yar\u0131 kapitalist,\nyar\u0131 sosyalist bir ekonomik sistemden olu\u015fan mevcut \u00c7in sistemleri aras\u0131nda\nb\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7eli\u015fkiler g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar i\u015fe yaramayacak. Uzun vadede, uzun \u00f6m\u00fcrl\u00fc bir s\u00fcper g\u00fc\u00e7\nyaratmayacak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>\u00c7in\u2019in Bat\u0131\u2019daki baz\u0131 destek\u00e7ileri aras\u0131nda, \u00c7in\u2019deki bu s\u00f6zde orta s\u0131n\u0131f\nkalk\u0131nmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00c7in liderli\u011fini bask\u0131 alt\u0131na alaca\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u00fcnde d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceler var. Bu\nda sonu\u00e7 vermedi. Bunun yerine \u00c7in sistemi i\u00e7inde, h\u00fck\u00fcmetle ili\u015fkileri ve\n\u00fclkenin geri kalan\u0131n\u0131 y\u00f6neten parti y\u00f6neticileri ve ordu aras\u0131nda, az ya da \u00e7ok\nb\u00f6l\u00fcnmeye neden oldu. Bu ger\u00e7ek bir istikrars\u0131zl\u0131k form\u00fcl\u00fcd\u00fcr. Bat\u0131\u2019n\u0131n \u00c7in\u2019i\ndaha demokratik, a\u00e7\u0131k bir sistemi g\u00f6zden ge\u00e7irmeye zorlama g\u00f6revi oldu\u011funu\nd\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ge\u00e7enlerde Pekin\u2019de\nSavunma Bakan\u0131 Jim Mattis ile birlikteydim ve kendimi ger\u00e7ekten bir bilgi\n\u00e7\u00f6l\u00fcne d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f gibi hissettim. Bug\u00fcn 2018\u2019de Bilgi \u00c7a\u011f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n zirvesindeyiz ve\nGoogle\u2019a eri\u015femiyorsunuz, Facebook\u2019a eri\u015femiyorsunuz, Twitter\u2019a\neri\u015femiyorsunuz. Sadece baz\u0131 yabanc\u0131 otellerden baz\u0131 yabanc\u0131 gazeteler\nalabiliyorsunuz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bunun \u00c7in kom\u00fcnist\nliderli\u011fi i\u00e7in ger\u00e7ek bir g\u00fcvenlik a\u00e7\u0131\u011f\u0131 oldu\u011funu hissettim. Vatanda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n\nd\u00fcnyadaki bilgilere serbest eri\u015fim isteyeceklerini anlam\u0131yorlar. Ve \u015fimdi \u00c7in\u2019deki\ninsanlar\u0131n VPN\u2019leri [sanal \u00f6zel a\u011flar] kullanmak i\u00e7in, di\u011fer ara\u00e7lar\u0131 kullanmak\ni\u00e7in, bilgi \u00e7a\u011f\u0131 deyimiyle d\u0131\u015f d\u00fcnyaya ula\u015fmak i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck g\u00fcvenlik duvar\u0131n\u0131\nk\u0131rmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 \u00e7ok \u00e7e\u015fitli yollar\u0131 var.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

NTD: <\/strong>Amerikal\u0131lar, Amerika\u2019n\u0131n ger\u00e7ek g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc tam olarak anl\u0131yor mu? Tocqueville,\nAmerika\u2019da dinin rol\u00fcn\u00fc vurgular. (\u00c7.N.: Tocqueville, 18.yy Frans\u0131z siyasi\nd\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr ve tarih\u00e7i)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gertz: <\/strong>Donald Trump\u2019\u0131n 2016\u2019da Amerika\u2019y\u0131 tekrar b\u00fcy\u00fck yapma fikrine dayanarak\nse\u00e7ilmesinin, Obama y\u00f6netimi s\u0131ras\u0131nda \u00fclkenin radikal, sosyalist ve ABD\nkar\u015f\u0131t\u0131 bir amaca itilmesinin bir yans\u0131mas\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Amerikan\nhalk\u0131 daha \u00e7ok Hillary Clinton\u2019a kar\u015f\u0131 bir savunma \u00f6nlemi olarak Trump\u2019a oy\nverdi. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bu bana, Amerika\u2019n\u0131n\nhala temel de\u011ferlerimize ve temel ilkelerimize inand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterdi; bu konuda\n\u015fu anda yo\u011fun bir siyasi tart\u0131\u015fma d\u00f6neminden ge\u00e7iyoruz. Genel olarak Amerika\u2019n\u0131n\ndo\u011fru yolda oldu\u011funu ve d\u00fcnyadaki iyilik i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck bir g\u00fc\u00e7 olabilece\u011fini\nd\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yazan: Simone Gao, NTD <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c7eviren: Hatice Atmaca, Epoch Times T\u00fcrkiye<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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