{"id":60534,"date":"2012-08-12T14:05:59","date_gmt":"2012-08-12T11:05:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/epochtimestr.com\/?p=60534"},"modified":"2012-08-12T14:05:59","modified_gmt":"2012-08-12T11:05:59","slug":"emine-erdogan-esma-esad-ile-ilgili-hayal-kirikligini-anlatti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/epochtimestr.com\/index.php\/emine-erdogan-esma-esad-ile-ilgili-hayal-kirikligini-anlatti","title":{"rendered":"Emine Erdo\u011fan, Esma Esad \u0130le \u0130lgili Hayal K\u0131r\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 Anlatt\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Emine Erdo\u011fan, Aktivist Kimli\u011fimle Arakan’a Dikkat \u00c7ekmek \u0130stedim, Dedi<\/h1>\n

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Emine Erdo\u011fan-Esma Esad<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n e\u015fi Emine Erdo\u011fan son aylarda M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplulu\u011fun ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131larla g\u00fcndeme gelen Mynamar\u2019\u0131n Arakan b\u00f6lgesi i\u00e7in bir ba\u011f\u0131\u015f kampanyas\u0131 olu\u015fturma konusundaki aray\u0131\u015flar\u0131 ve Ankara\u2019n\u0131n bu konudaki diplomatik ata\u011f\u0131 sonucu ge\u00f6en hafta ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirilen \u00f6zel gezi h\u0131zl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde \u00a0planland\u0131. Bug\u00fcne kadar yabanc\u0131 heyetlerin Arakan\u2019daki kamplara girmesine ambargo koyan Mynamar H\u00fck\u00fcmeti, b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyay\u0131 \u015fa\u015f\u0131rtan bir kararla Ankara\u2019ya ye\u015fil \u0131\u015f\u0131k yakt\u0131.<\/p>\n

H\u00fcrriyet Gazetesi\u2019nden Cansu \u00c7aml\u0131bel\u2019in sorular\u0131n\u0131, d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f yolunda cevaplayan Emine Erdo\u011fan, Suriye konusunda da \u00e7arp\u0131c\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda bulundu.Bir zamanlar yak\u0131n dostlu\u011fu payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 Esma Esad konusundaki duygu ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerini ilk kez a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u00a0-Bu zor seyahatin sonunda izlenimleriniz neler? Sorusunu Emine Erdo\u011fan \u015fu \u015fekilde yan\u0131tlad\u0131:
\n\u2018\u2018Ben daha \u00f6nce de ma\u011fdur \u00fclkelere, ba\u015fka b\u00f6lgelere gittim ama buras\u0131 bir ba\u015fka oldu. Burada hani s\u00f6z\u00fcn bitti\u011fi yer denir ya, onu ya\u015fad\u0131m. Y\u00fcre\u011fim par\u00e7aland\u0131, duygular\u0131m\u0131 anlatacak kelime bulam\u0131yorum. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n yard\u0131m falan umurlar\u0131nda de\u011fil, bizi kurtar\u0131n diyorlar. Kimliksizlik sorunlar\u0131 var, g\u00fcven sorunlar\u0131 var. \u015eu anda korku i\u00e7indeler. Resmen suyun, \u00e7amurun i\u00e7inde ya\u015f\u0131yorlar. G\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz manzara kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda insanl\u0131\u011f\u0131mdan utand\u0131m. Nas\u0131l buna seyirci kalabiliyor baz\u0131 insanlar?\u2019\u2019<\/p>\n

\u00a0-Arakan\u2019a gittiniz ama \u00f6nceden de Myanmar h\u00fck\u00fcmetiyle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler vard\u0131. Bir \u00e7eli\u015fki ya\u015fad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/p>\n

\u2018\u2018\u00c7ok zor bir durumdu bizimkisi asl\u0131nda. \u0130ki tarafla da g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme vard\u0131. Bir \u015fekilde idare ettik. \u0130lk kez T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi buralara gitmek i\u00e7in davet ettiler. Amac\u0131m\u0131z bir yard\u0131m koridorunun a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131na \u00f6nc\u00fcl\u00fck etmekti. Bunun devam etmesi i\u00e7in iyi ili\u015fkiler kurmak zorunday\u0131z. \u0130nsani yard\u0131m i\u00e7in gitti\u011fimizi hissettirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k, bunda da ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olduk.<\/p>\n

Bu Soruyu Anlayam\u0131yorum<\/h2>\n

-Arakan\u2019a yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z bu ziyaret T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de baz\u0131 \u00e7evrelerde ele\u015ftiri konusu oldu. B\u00f6lgemizde bu kadar sorun varken neden Arakan?
\nBen bu soruyu anlam\u0131yorum. \u0130mk\u00e2nlar\u0131m\u0131z ayn\u0131 anda birka\u00e7 b\u00f6lgeye ula\u015fmaya yetiyorsa niye ko\u015fmayay\u0131m? \u0130mk\u00e2n\u0131n\u0131z varsa bu bitsin sonra \u00f6b\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc yapar\u0131m diyemezsiniz. Tabii bunlar\u0131n hepsi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin g\u00fcc\u00fcyle, g\u00fcndem belirleyici olmas\u0131yla da alakal\u0131.<\/p>\n

-Somali, Pakistan, \u015fimdi Arakan… Bu t\u00fcr insani yard\u0131m ama\u00e7l\u0131 gezileriniz devam edecek mi?
\nS\u00fcrekli olsun diye bir niyetim yok. Ama biraz da d\u00fcnyadaki durumlar bizi oraya g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyor. Sonu\u00e7ta ben sade vatanda\u015f Emine Erdo\u011fan de\u011filim, bir aktivist kimli\u011fim var. Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n e\u015fi kimli\u011fimle d\u00fcnyan\u0131n dikkatini \u00e7ekebiliyorum. \u0130nsan haklar\u0131, yoksulluk, a\u00e7l\u0131k s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda bu kimli\u011fimi sonuna kadar de\u011ferlendiriyorum.<\/p>\n

Esma Esad Benim \u0130\u00e7in Hayal K\u0131r\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r<\/h3>\n

-Suriye\u2019nin durumu malum. Esma Esad ile ge\u00e7mi\u015fteki dostlu\u011funuz biliniyor. Ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?
\nSuriye olay\u0131 beni \u00e7ok y\u0131kt\u0131. Bizler amat\u00f6r insanlar\u0131z. Dost olarak insanlar\u0131 kalbimizin i\u00e7ine sokuyoruz, ger\u00e7ekten dost oluyoruz. Ona da kalbimi a\u00e7t\u0131m. Benim i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck hayal k\u0131r\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

-En son ne zaman g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcn\u00fcz, arad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131 kendisini?
\nUzun zaman g\u00f6z\u00fckmedi ortalarda. Bu ya\u015fananlar\u0131 asla kabul etmez, reddeder diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrd\u00fcm ve hatta \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 da al\u0131p \u0130ngiltere\u2019ye babas\u0131n\u0131n yan\u0131na gitmi\u015ftir diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrd\u00fcm. Ge\u00e7en y\u0131l temmuz-a\u011fustos aylar\u0131nda e\u015fimin Be\u015far Esad ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fc d\u00f6nemde kendisine e\u015fiyle mesaj g\u00f6nderdim. Beni aramas\u0131n\u0131 rica ettim. Ama bana d\u00f6nmedi. \u0130nanamad\u0131m \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc biz \u00e7ok samimiydik, dosttuk, protokol yoktu aram\u0131zda. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn bu i\u015fler ba\u015flamadan evvel Esma, annesi, babas\u0131, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131, karde\u015fi, gelini hep birlikte bize geldiler. Biz onlar\u0131 tatilde a\u011f\u0131rlad\u0131k, bas\u0131n\u0131n haberi bile olmad\u0131.<\/p>\n

-Sizi arasayd\u0131 ne yapard\u0131n\u0131z?
\nKe\u015fke o zaman arasayd\u0131. Gelseydi. Derdim ki \u201c\u00c7ocuklar\u0131nla beraber T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gel seni koruma alt\u0131na alal\u0131m.\u201d \u0130nan\u0131n \u00e7ok isterdim gelip \u00e7ocuklar\u0131yla burada ya\u015famas\u0131n\u0131.<\/p>\n

-Ba\u015fbakan Erdo\u011fan ne derdi buna?
\nBa\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n da b\u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnece\u011fini san\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

\u00a0-Esma Esad nas\u0131l bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r, kibirli midir?
\nKesinlikle de\u011fil. \u00c7ok candan bir insand\u0131r. \u00dclkesinde demokratikle\u015fme, \u00e7a\u011fda\u015fla\u015fma isteyen bir kad\u0131nd\u0131. O nedenle inanam\u0131yorum olup bitenlere duyars\u0131z kalmas\u0131na.<\/p>\n

-\u00d6nce Arakan\u2019a gitmi\u015f olsayd\u0131n\u0131z g\u00f6rd\u00fcklerinizden sonra yine de Myanmar y\u00f6netimi ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr m\u00fcyd\u00fcn\u00fcz? Hi\u00e7 pi\u015fmanl\u0131k ya\u015fad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?
\nKamp\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fckten sonra da hi\u00e7bir serzeni\u015fte bulunmad\u0131m \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc iki \u00fclke aras\u0131ndaki ilgi ve alakan\u0131n devam etmesi gerekiyor. Buna da pi\u015fman de\u011filim, \u00f6yle davramam\u0131z gerekiyor \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bir koridor a\u00e7t\u0131k, o koridorun kapanmas\u0131n\u0131 istemeyiz. Oraya yeniden gidece\u011fiz. Hizmetlerimiz gidecek. Ben de Say\u0131n Ba\u015fbakan ile birlikte yeniden gitmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n

-Sizce olaylar\u0131n k\u00f6keninde Myanmar h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlara kar\u015f\u0131 ayr\u0131mc\u0131 bir tutum i\u00e7inde olmas\u0131 var m\u0131, b\u00f6yle bir izlenim edindiniz mi?
\nBunu s\u00f6ylemek yanl\u0131\u015f olabilir, in\u015fallah de\u011fildir. Bu h\u00fck\u00fcmet yeni bir h\u00fck\u00fcmet. Arakan\u2019daki olaylar\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131 onlara y\u00fckleyerek haks\u0131zl\u0131k etmi\u015f oluruz. H\u00fck\u00fcmetin demokratikle\u015fme gayreti var.<\/p>\n

Provokasyon ve cehalet<\/strong><\/p>\n

-Size g\u00f6re bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n k\u00f6keninde ne var?
\nArakan\u2019da M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlarla Budistleri birbirine d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u00fcp oradan atmak niyetiyle bir provokasyon oldu\u011funu hissediyorum. Cehalet de eklenirse bunun \u015fiddeti katlanabiliyor. Din adamlar\u0131n\u0131n bu i\u015fin i\u00e7inde olmas\u0131 beni \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131rtt\u0131. Demek ki ter\u00f6r\u00fcn dini iman\u0131 yok.<\/p>\n

-Budistlerin kamp\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l buldunuz?
\nBizim gayemiz ayr\u0131m yapmadan iki tarafada yard\u0131m etmek. Bunu da g\u00f6sterdik. Ger\u00e7i Budistler biraz \u00e7ekimser davrand\u0131lar, mesafeli durdular. Yani mesafe bizden de\u011fil onlardan kaynakland\u0131. Ama k\u00fclt\u00fcrleri \u00f6yle san\u0131r\u0131m.<\/p>\n

S\u00fcmeyye Erdo\u011fan: Senede en az 3 defa ailece g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrd\u00fck. Hatta ben arkada\u015flar\u0131mla \u015eam\u2019a gittim, bizi Esma Han\u0131m a\u011f\u0131rlad\u0131.<\/p>\n

D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Ahmet Davuto\u011flu\u2019nu resmi ziyaret i\u00e7in Myanmar\u2019a g\u00f6nderme karar\u0131 alan Ba\u015fbakan \u00a0e\u015fi Emine Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n da bu heyette yer almas\u0131n\u0131n farkl\u0131 bir anlam ta\u015f\u0131yaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f. Bu hik\u00e2yeyi zorlu Arakan yolculu\u011funda annesini yaln\u0131z b\u0131rakmayan S\u00fcmeyye Erdo\u011fan\u2019dan dinliyoruz: \u201cNormalde bu t\u00fcr fikirler annemden \u00e7\u0131kar ama bu babam\u0131n fikriydi\u201d diyor. G\u00f6zya\u015flar\u0131 i\u00e7inde gezdi\u011fi kamplardaki yoksulluk ve \u00e7aresizlik Emine Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131 sarsm\u0131\u015f. \u201cBuna nas\u0131l seyirci kalabilirler\u201d diye sorguluyor ama T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin yard\u0131m g\u00f6t\u00fcrmesi i\u00e7in istisnai bir izin veren Myanmar h\u00fck\u00fcmeti hakk\u0131nda pe\u015fin h\u00fck\u00fcm vermekten ka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

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\u00a0 Emine Erdo\u011fan, Aktivist Kimli\u011fimle Arakan’a Dikkat \u00c7ekmek \u0130stedim, Dedi Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n e\u015fi Emine Erdo\u011fan son aylarda M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplulu\u011fun ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131larla g\u00fcndeme gelen Mynamar\u2019\u0131n Arakan b\u00f6lgesi i\u00e7in bir ba\u011f\u0131\u015f kampanyas\u0131 olu\u015fturma konusundaki aray\u0131\u015flar\u0131 ve Ankara\u2019n\u0131n bu konudaki diplomatik ata\u011f\u0131 sonucu ge\u00f6en hafta ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirilen \u00f6zel gezi h\u0131zl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde \u00a0planland\u0131. 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